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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 8:13 am    Post subject: Roll eye catch? Reply with quote

I found a rip of the Roll Eye Catch at Deviantart http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/21388449/ but before I can report it I need to show the admits proof so they can delete it. Is there a screencap of this on the site I can link them too?

I hate art theft. What's the point of taking credit for a piece of artwork that isn't your? Grrr.......
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 8:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, I believe the person who made this is saying he made a wallpaper. He's not claiming he drew it.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

..... How is that even considered Mature?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 8:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Actually, I believe the person who made this is saying he made a wallpaper. He's not claiming he drew it.


I'm pretty sure that is against Deviantart rules. You can't use screencaps from copyrighted material like that, it can cause legal problems for their site.

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How is that even considered Mature?


You're a little vague hear How is What mature?

Are you talking about art theft or me trying to stop art theft?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's not art theft. That's simply a poorly modified screencap.

You should only report art theft if the stolen submission looks fan-made and differs from the theif's current style.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 9:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

According to Deviantart policy it is Art Theft. Here is what Deviantart considers art theft http://help.deviantart.com/304/.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know little french but well enough to transalate it a bit. The author says this is a wallpaper she made for fun, and one of her friends is using it, too. She only added some little effects to make it.

In my opinion, it's true as she says, and wallpapers aren't illegal when they are made of screencaps, it happens all the time. She isn't saying she drew it, so there's no illegal stuff happening here. And since the wallpaper is kinda fun, I see no reason to complain, unless you're jealous of the wallpaper ^^.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nonetheless, it probably WILL get removed from her profile sometime in the future. A lot of my stuff my removed simply for the use of sprites.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 10:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is like talking to brick walls.
It's against Deviantart Rules!
The rules are there for a good reason. Art sites have gotten into big legal trouble for not being careful about copyrights. I believe Elfwood got sued once by some author.

Jealous has nothing to do with it, but Artist Integrity does. They want their site to be an art site not an altered screencap site.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agreed about the artist integrity part, but why discuss it here? The Deviantart forums would be a better place to do so, I think. I know you're looking for the screencaps, they are amongst Ryo's, Stream episode 11.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We're not brick walls...its just that this is such as small splash in a huge ocean...not many people would care for it...why you even posted the topic is beyond me...

Okay, You make half as much sense as you claim you do. If anyone was mad about screen caps to make legal LAWSUITS, they're would be no anime fansites...

But do they care? No! An art site cannot get in trouble by anime screen caps because they are everwhere! They WANT it to be everywhere! That's how they get more fans.

However, I do guess it's against the rules...but so what? It'll get removed eventually, anyway.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 10:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why does it matter to you?

You've obviously never heard of this person before, and I'm sure if the DA people find it they'll do what they want. It's none of your buisness and the people at REO can't do a thing about it.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

iggy wrote:
This is like talking to brick walls.
It's against Deviantart Rules!
The rules are there for a good reason. Art sites have gotten into big legal trouble for not being careful about copyrights. I believe Elfwood got sued once by some author.
Let me ask you this: have you ever done anything illegal, particularly stealing something in any way shape or form? If so, you've got no right to complain about this guy using a mere screencap for a personal wallpaper.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The Deviantart forums would be a better place to do so,


That's against Deviantart rules as well. Can't call out another deviant in the deviantart forums because then other deviants may go and flame said deviant.

I don't think the deviant deserves to be flamed. He or she just needs to learn some integrity

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they are amongst Ryo's, Stream episode 11.

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It'll get removed eventually, anyway.

The only way it'll get removed is if it's reported. Noone reports it then it never gets removed

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Okay, You make half as much sense as you claim you do

It's much more about artist integrity/moral. Artist should respect the rights of other artist. Even if the original anime artist of the megaman pic doesn't care, the artist who runs the site doesn't want them on the site therefore his wish should be respected by the other artists he allows on his site
Artist integrity should be learnt by anyone who wishes to become a good artist. Simple ignoring the art theft will not teach him/her anything.

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have you ever done anything illegal, particularly stealing something in any way shape or form?

By canadian law. Nope. By American law perhaps. In Canada it is not illegal to download copyrighted material. By Amercan law it is.
I do download but I also buy the dvds when they become available to me.

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you've got no right to complain about this guy using a mere screencap for a personal wallpaper.


taking a screencap and making a wallpaper, that's fine. The problem is when it's posted on a art site like deviantart where everything posted is automatically considered copyright the deviant who posted it. Plus the people who run the site do not want screenshots there, their wishes should be respected.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're acting as if he raided the REO's fanart forum and started posting the pictures everywhere as his own.

All he did was take a screencap, crop it into a wallpaper size, and add a few effects. There are plenty of wallpapers and pictures out there that use screencaps and official art, and I don't see you complaining about those.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh no. I'm not talking about the obvious Mature censor over the picture. But all though naked Ladies on the URL
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As if the person who made the graphic drew it herself.

Why you're assuming that this graphic is considered art theft, I have no clue, but you do realize that there are countless numbers of poorly modified screencaps on DeviantArt?

I have no clue whatsoever why you bothered to post this here, but this forum can't do crap to get the person to remove that screencap.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 11:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tachyon360 wrote:
You're acting as if he raided the REO's fanart forum and started posting the pictures everywhere as his own.

All he did was take a screencap, crop it into a wallpaper size, and add a few effects. There are plenty of wallpapers and pictures out there that use screencaps and official art, and I don't see you complaining about those.


i repeat myself again

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taking a screencap and making a wallpaper, that's fine. The problem is when it's posted on a art site like deviantart where everything posted is automatically considered the picture copyright the deviant who posted it. Plus the people who run the site do not want screenshots there, their wishes should be respected.


It doesn't matter that he does not claim the screenshot as his own, it's not suppose to be on deviantart. There are many other sites where it can go.[/b]



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I have no clue whatsoever why you bothered to post this here

Simple needed a screencap. That all I need. And I got it with some argument.
But a little debate is good too even if I have to repeat myself several times.

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As if the person who made the graphic drew it herself.

Never even thought that but yours and my definition of Art Theft seems to differ.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

iggy wrote:
This is like talking to brick walls.
It's against Deviantart Rules!
The rules are there for a good reason. Art sites have gotten into big legal trouble for not being careful about copyrights. I believe Elfwood got sued once by some author.

Jealous has nothing to do with it, but Artist Integrity does. They want their site to be an art site not an altered screencap site.



I have a wallpaper on MY account I made from Stargate SG1 screencaps. As long as you give credit to where you got the captures and the original makers, they don't seem to have a problem with it. If you just say "I made this myself its mine!" you're in trouble. If you say "I made this from, these caps from these sites, and I don't own it but the idea was mine. [Insert fandom[ is copywrited by [insert copywrite]" ect ect.

So pay a bit more attention before rambling on about it. DeviantArt is having enough trouble with the whole Jark issue. Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DeviantArt doesn't automatically register copyrights with any country's copyright office. Granted, any original work by any given artist would be considered their property, but the artist can explain whether or not it's their work and whether or not it's public domain.

All that aside, why do you care so much? You're not an animator that worked on that episode, the wallpaper is not your work, and you're not the one comitting the supposed crime. Don't give me that crap about artistic integrity, since the person that made that wallpaper didn't take it from his peers without permission and doesn't claim that the screencap is his own.

Edit: I reread your last post after you edited it. So let me get this straight: you made a whole argument over practically nothing for no better reason than to hope somebody sees through your pretense and gives you the original screencap? Geeze, could've you just asked?


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