Ijuuin Shuuseki

Atreyu · Net Battler Joined: 15 Mar 2005 Posts: 87

*fumes* Shuuseki. Is. Not. Satan. Period. He would not beat his son, rape his son, kill his son's friends, delete his son's navi, etc! So he pushes Enzan a bit to hard. So he's a little cold. That does not mean he is worse than the Darkloids when it comes to cruelty. *headdesk* Shuuseki gets little character development in the games, much less so in the anime. So why do people make him out to be such a bad guy? If anything, he doesn't care about Enzan (which I doubt--he must have some feelings about the boy; why would Enzan be Vice President if his father had no faith in him?)

Sorry, this little rant came from reading massive fics which portray Shuuseki as the evil incarnate. -_-; (I like these smilies, wee~)

**Ryouko** · Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 12:46 am Post subject:

o.o Oh my.

I can't say I like Shuuseki, but I don't absolutely despise him. He did give him Blues, afterall. <3 I think it's because there is so much lack of character development that people improvise further on their own so much. It's easy to flesh out a character if there's not much guidelines to hold you down.
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Atreyu · Net Battler Joined: 15 Mar 2005 Posts: 87

That freedom is both a blessing and a curse, I'll have to admit. On one hand, Shuuseki seems cold and distant from what we've seen. On the other hand, if he really was abusive/alcoholic/etc, I don't think Enzan would be the cocky guy we see. Fanfic is a wonderful thing, but if Enzan has a complex because his father hits him, why don't we see it in the show?

Rave_789 · Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 1:08 am Post subject:

Well i guess that Enzan develop his trait from his father. That's why he can be so cocky and rude. Anyway Shuuseki seems like a cold hearted person since he didn't get much character development.

Shades · Net Savior Joined: 15 Mar 2005 Posts: 166

I think if they did do a Shuuseki saga in the anime, it's gonna turn out like Kaiba's father rivalry thing.

Anyways, I still don't really like Shuuseki, they should of kept Enzan as an orphan, IMO.
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Bobcat Moran · Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 1:52 am Post subject:

I think I might have read the fic you're referring to. -_-; And yes, Shuuseki is a jerk (I can see where Enzan gets it from), but abusive? I doubt it.
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devastati · Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 5:58 am Post subject:

abusive? no
jerk? definitely

he gets on my nerves too -_-;
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blazequest · Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 8:55 am Post subject: Re: Ijuuin Shuuseki

Suraida-Chan · Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 9:28 am Post subject:

I never thought of Shuuseki like that. I know he's a jerk, but no way abusive.

.... and he's also ugly to boot. =P
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Rocketboy · Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 9:56 am Post subject:

In the games, he was sorta abusive IMO. IN the games.

But, in the anime, he's more cold than abusive.

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Judgement.EXE · Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 11:09 am Post subject:

If he was abusive than why would he be training Enzan to be the heir of the company? You can't be abusive and expect someone to listen to you. Or at least that's what I think.
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Cool Fire Bird · Joined: 15 Mar 2005 Posts: 37

I don't see Shuuseki as abusive in the anime or the games or the manga. He treats Enzan differently in each one, but isn't abusive. At least not physically.

The Anime, Shuuseki is cold and harsh to Enzan, but expects a lot from him. He wants the best from him and doesn't want to see any weakness. Enzan probably sees him more than in the games or manga, but as a boss instead of a father. Even so, Enzan picked up his father's attitude from being around him like that.
If he were physically abused, it would show to some degree and he would be MUCH harsher and colder to everyone around him.
But no, Enzan thinks highly of himself and everyone else as lower class. He doesn't worry about Net Battling so much in the anime because he's also vice president. He's already an important person in the eyes of many, he doesn't need the Net Battling as much as to feed his ego or to impress his father as he does in the games or manga. Which is probably why he was able to become friends with Netto a lot easier than in the games.
EDIT: And where would his father get the TIME to abuse Enzan physically? He sounds so busy that he sends Enzan half the time to do business FOR him(makes me wonder if he's in Japan at all).

In the Games Shuuseki neglects Enzan and is a bit vocally abusive. Not extremely, but makes Enzan feel he's never living up to his father's expectations. Which is why he's a lot colder to everyone else in the games than he is in the anime. Except to Meiru for some odd reason in the earlier games (lessens earlier on when he sees Meiru likes Netto, but still there). I suspect that women intimidate him and he has no idea how to act around them since he never had a mother.
But he's so cold to Netto because he wants to show he's the best, and can't do that with this 'new kid' getting in his way.
Which is why he has a hard time liking Netto later on. Not just because he doesn't see him as much as he does in the anime or manga, but because he's in the way of the only thing he has that makes him special.

In the Manga (let me note that this is a guess since I don't know much about the manga as I do about the games and anime), I think it's the same as the game. His father ignores him. But he's able to become friends with Netto by not only seeing him more often, but giving him chances to battle him and because he has more respect. I also think it's because Netto is a lot louder and more reckless than he is in the game or anime, which cases more 'fights' between the two (which is highly amusing). So they develop a strange friendship over it. Enzan is still embarrassed to be seen with him and there are times I'm sure he really can't stand Netto, it's not as bad as it is in the games.

*phew* longer than planned, but eh... yeah.
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Unknown Neo · Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 11:44 am Post subject:

I think he's just the typical rich single dad, his wife died so he throws himself in his work and trains his son to take over if needed. Kinda like kaiba's step-father except without the massive jerkness.

Rocketboy · Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 1:26 pm Post subject:

Rex · Net Battler Age: 35 Joined: 16 Mar 2005 Posts: 97

just one word: big JERK
abussive... a little but at the bottom of all this he is just a big jerk.
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KitCat · Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 7:14 pm Post subject:

I agree with everyone here.

I think a lot of people think he's abusive at first look. But if you really think about it, he's not. I mean, Enzan wouldn't be who he is or be where he is if his father was abusive.

So yes, I guess you can call him a jerk.
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**Malik** · Local Prinny Deity Age: 34 Joined: 14 Mar 2005 Posts: 1179

I always thought of him as a cruel person, but not so cruel as to beat Enzan. I was always thinking that Shuuseki was apathetic to Enzan because he was afraid Enzan would be too softhearted. Though, in the anime, it didn't stop him from angsting so much >.>

anime21 · Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 5:34 am Post subject:

I think that Enzan's dad just works him a bit harder so that her can be ready to take over when he is older. He doesn't want to miss a thing when he is training him to be his best.

Enzan_Blues_FanGirl · Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 6:01 pm Post subject:

-_-; I hate Mr. Ijuin! He's cold to his son! Who would do that?! My mommy and Daddy love me. I feel really sorry for Enzan... I really do! T_T
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