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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 1:12 pm    Post subject: Super Smash Bros. Revolution Reply with quote

Because of a large amount of discussion on this topic. I created a thread specifically for this game. So who do you guys think will be new characters? new stages? AS for characters I'm hoping for one or two Metroid characters. Luminoth, the Metroid Prime, and maybe Samus in the fusion suit? I also thought that perhaps they could give Ganondorf a down B attack similar to Zelda's and Sheik's that allows him to turn into Ganon.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Characters:
Ganondorf OoT - Giving him the ability to throw magic balls, and as stated above, to change him into ganon.
Ganondorf TWW - Gotta love his 2 swords Razz
New Ganondorf (he has been confirmed for the new zelda gamecube game)

Samus Suitless, like in Metroid Zero Mission
Samus in Fusion Suit

Galaxia Kirby (kirby with Metaknight sword)
Metaknight, he is so awesome

Worlds:
Ganon's Castle/Tower (before or after the collapse of the tower)
Mother Brain Room (in wihch mother brain sometimes attacks)
DK - K. Rools ship from DKC1
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also Crimson Seiko mentioned King Dedede which I think is an excellent idea. New items I think there should be a FLUDD from Mario Sunshine. As well as the vacuum from Luigi's Mansion.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Probally add in wario and walugi and let gannondorf use his sword.
I always said that.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah. Definetly Wario and Waluigi. Bowser Jr. as well. He's my favorite Mario character XP. I think they should also add some character from Double Dash. Like Petey Piranha and KIng Boo.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Waluigi can't even DO anything though. Wario is a good choice, but they seriously need to tone it down on the Mario characters already.

New Characters:
Diddy Kong
Wario
Pit
Ridley
King Dedede
Meta Knight
Blaziken

New Characters I want, but probably won't be in it:
Banjo-Kazooie
Marina Lightyears
Bomberman
Issac
Geno
Mallow

New Stages:
Bowser's Castle
Spiral Mountain
The Halberd
Gangplank Galleon
Mt. Dedede
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crap. I didn't even think of Ridley. His attacks would rock. Would it be posssible to put Megaman characters in it? I doubt it, but Megaman and Sonic would be great choices. Whaty about another legendary Pokemon? Jirachi and/or Deoxys perhaps.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I cant wait for it :V
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

how 'bout some Chrono Trigger characters? that would rock! or heck even just a metroid. or zero. zero would be cool.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since neither Rockman and Bomberman are not exclusive to Nintendo, they might not have a chance of being in this game.

However that doesn't mean they can't totally be in it. There's a CHANCE...although it's prolly pretty small...
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BTW, please note I'm not doing this for the sake of backseat modding, but I just want people to be totally clear on this so that we don't get the same exact "these character should..." lists:

THERE ARE NOT GOING TO BE ANY SONIC, OR MEGAMAN CHARACTERS IN THE NEXT SUPER SMASH BROS GAME.

Reason being, Nintendo does NOT own them. All of the characters that were in the previous games were owned by Nintendo, or associated HAL Laboratory. That's why there were not even any TROPHIES of Megaman, or Bomberman, or any other characters like that. It's ture that many of them have been mostly on Nintendo systems, or in some cases ONLY on Nintendo systems, but the point is, Super Smash Bros is for Nintendo-created characters ONLY. In fact, I'm a little concerned if Diddy Kong will even be able to be in the next game or not. I know Nintendo has most of the rights of the Doney Kong characters, but since Rare transferred to Microsoft, that's why I have my doubts about characters liek Banjo-Kazooie or Conker being in the next game in any way shape or form. It's disappointing, but it's the truth.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kirbo has an excellent point. THere probably won't be any of those characterts but it would still rock. Anyway, I just started playing Super Mario Sunshine and I think Toadsworth would be an excellent character. Actually any Toad really. I think I'm gonna start making some movesets for these characters.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kirbopher15 wrote:
Nintendo-created characters ONLY.
A majority of the characters weren't even made by Nintendo. They're licensed by them, however, which is what allows them to be used in the SSB games.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right, which is why for instance, Dixie Kong and King K. Rool have trophies. Meanwhile, some characters were on other PLATFORMs, such as Bomberman that appeared on PC and some Sega consoles. Meanwhile, cases like Sonic and Megaman, have also been put on other fighting games already, which is on the big reasons they're also prettymuch ruled out.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kirbopher15 wrote:
Right, which is why for instance, Dixie Kong and King K. Rool have trophies.
... what does this have to do with anything?

edit: 400get


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

About Ganon using his sword...their was a code in Smash Bros. Melee that made him pull out his sword in battle, but not use it to attack.

Characters they should add:
Deoxys(Pokemon)
Metaknight
Waddle-Dee
Ephraim(Fire Emblem)
Joshua(the Myrmidon from Fire Emblem:Sacred Stones)
Cackletta
Skull Kid(With Majora's Mask)
Majora's Incarnation
Majora's Wrath
Saria
Deku Link
Goron Link
Zora Link
Oni Link
Orca(The old guy from Wind Waker)
Cranky Kong

As for move sets: *Four special attacks*
Deoxys:Psycho Boost, Night Shade, Cosmic Power, Hyper Beam
MetaKnight:Sword Slash, Flying Sword Slash, Sword Upper, Wing Shield
Waddle-Dee:Same as Kirby, except Copy is replaced with a tackle attack.
Ephraim:Same as Marth, but more powerful and edited.
Joshua:Sword Slash, Critical Attack, Jump Slash, Downward Cut
Cackletta:I have no idea...
Skull Kid:I have no idea once again.
Majora's Incarnation:Energy Ball, Dance, Jump Punch, Dash Tackle
Majora's Wrath:Tentacle Wrap, Energy Ball, Spin Attack, Teleport
Saria:Command Deku Scrub, Ocarina(inflicts random status attacks.)
Deku Link:Bubble, Spin Attack, Flower Glide, Deku Nut
Goron Link:Goron Ball Dash, Bongo Drums, Big Keg, Defense Shell
Zora Link:Blade Attacks, Dive, Electric Shield, Upwards Slash
Oni Link:Blade Projectile, Dash Slash, Spin Slash, Thrust Attack
Orca:Slash, Thrust, Parry, Combo
Cranky Kong:Cane Smack, Boring Talk, Potion, Cane Thrust.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not incredibly picky on who appears... long as at least Metaknight and/or Kamek make it in, I'm happy...

I hope they go for a couple more of their less likely series choices like they did in Melee though, like Game & Watch and Ice Climbers. It'd be kinda boring IMO if they just go with a bunch of popular franchises like most people seem to have on their lists.

Edit: Y'know... even though I really doubt it'd happen, it'd be cool to see one of those little Geolyte guys from Meteos in the game as a new Game & Watch-ish joke character.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zan wrote:
Kirbopher15 wrote:
Right, which is why for instance, Dixie Kong and King K. Rool have trophies.
... what does this have to do with anything?


They were created by Rare, but they were licensed by Nintendo, just like you said. That's why Nintendo is allowed to use the Donkey Kong characters in the new bongo-drum games for instance, even though Rare left them.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another one? Damn I still suck at SSBM....Laughing Looks like fun :D
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kirbopher is right... mostly. It can be summarized a lot more easily.

Super Smash Bros. is a fighting game tribute to NINTENDO. This means NINTENDO. And allow me to repeat myself. NINTENDO. While it's perfectly logical that Nintendo could get a license to use Sonic or MegaMan in the game, they're not going to, because Sonic and MegaMan do not represent NINTENDO. Characters that represent NINTENDO are typically characters that have only appeared on NINTENDO systems.

And for the record, it's fairly obvious that Donkey Kong Country characters are now property of NINTE-- err, Nintendo. I mean, Diddy Kong has been playable in most Mario games since Mario Kart: Double Dash!!, Kremlings have appeared in Mario Power Tennis, and both Diddy and even Dixie are playable in the upcoming Mario Baseball. I think there's even a Kremling team in Super Mario Strikers, too. So, the possibility of Diddy playable in the next SSB is far from unlikely.

As I said on another thread, though, the characters I'd most like to see return to the Nintendo side of the copyright is everyone from Super Mario RPG... characters who are still property of Square-Enix. Playable Mallow and Geno, or even just Geno, would make my day.
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