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PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 11:05 pm    Post subject: Embrase the darkness(maybe spoilers?) Reply with quote

Does anyone think the darksoul is is good? I mean going PURE evil and not using the choas soul unions.
I perfer using the darksoul in 4 and Im hopping they will have it agian in 6
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 5:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, here's the thing: using it lowers your HP considerably. While you eventually reach the point that 0 HP makes Rockman become invincible but uncontrollable, that can only happen once in battle. On top of all that, you can't use Dark Chips in the final two battles, with your diminished HP still lowered.

So basically, while Dark Chips might make the general battles considerably easier, they totally screw you over as you approach the end of the game.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dark Soul is FAR too weak to see any practical use in the current environment. At the beginning of the game, DarkChips actually seemed to be good--where else could you get 500 damage when trying to bust Shademan or some of your tougher tournament opponents with a weak folder? As the game (games, rather) progressed, one could obtain better chips and stronger PAs, that were capable of doing more damage. And the benefit of being completely light was the fact that FS occurred randomly. Even a random x2 multiplier immediately made being light MUCH more worth it than being dark, as the powers of the DarkChips were fixed, and the FS multiplier simply promised a LOT MORE damage.

In short, if one decides to use DarkChips, it's crossing the Rubicon essentially--once it is used chronically, there's no turning back.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The darkness is good and bad because of two things:

1. You get to use dark-related chips such as Muramasa, Anubis, and the DS Chips.

2. Your health keeps dropping by 1 every time you use a Dark Chip.

I mostly use Dark Chips for Chaos Unisons.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I never used Darkchips, and I never will. As much as they're awesome to use and all, I thrive on getting every power-up so that I can stand a chance against the SP and DS versions of the Boss Navis, and espescially against the "King of Chaos" in EXE5. HP Memories are the best, since I don't use any HP+ Customizer Parts. And I would be royal pi$$ed of I couldn't control Rockman, the only reason I love the EXE games so much is that if you're good enough you can avoid almost any attacks.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LgacyDX wrote:
1. You get to use dark-related chips such as Muramasa, Anubis, and the DS Chips.


There just weren't many chips in EXE4 that benefitted Dark users to the point where it could stand up to the other dominant strategies of the game. At best, NoiseStorm (Static) could possibly do quite a bit, but usually light users FS'ed with one AirHoc and PitHockey'd their opponents in a ridiculously small amount of time. If such a player was against a slower light-aligned player, he stood a chance, but the FS multiplier simply made light alignment MUCH more appealing.

P.S. It's good to see another New Yorker on the boards. This city seems far too underrepresented here. ^_^
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 12:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've only ever used Dark Soul with the Shadow Soul Chaos Unison. (Ok it's called dark invisi but come on it's the same thing only in Chaos Unison you can use it more than once)
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 2:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

......... i never make it! when in chaos soul when i charging, it always send the dark mega
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I only use the dark chips to do choas soul union with Napalmman
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used darkchips on my 3rd playthrough on 4, but just frequently enough to keep Rock the darkest color. The HP loss wasn't too bad, only about 1 every 15 battles, but it was worth being able to use some of the dark-exclusive chips.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well.... I've never used them as a raw chip, but many soul unisions are taking place. And (luckily) Rock is still in balance after it. Just out of curiosity, can Chaos Unisons use dark related Program Advances?

And there's always been that nagging desire to see what happens if you use darkchips until you lose your last health point...
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You don't lose your last HP point, you just stay at one.

I only use Darkchips for Chaos unisons. I mean, I went completely dark in EXE 4. Then, I thought I was tough and went to fight Forte SP... and got my ass whipped in two turns, it was really pathetic.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Revenant wrote:
Well.... I've never used them as a raw chip, but many soul unisions are taking place. And (luckily) Rock is still in balance after it. Just out of curiosity, can Chaos Unisons use dark related Program Advances?


The only thing that the Chaos Unisons grants the player to do is the ability, if timed right, to use the power of the DarkChip used for the Chaos Unison without any drawback--no loss of 1 life, no loss of karma, etc. I would reason that since Chaos Unisons do not worry about a user's karma, it wouldn't grant any special ability to use Dark PA's that would otherwise be denied to you.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would only use Chaos Unisons.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most of the Chaos Souls in BN5 Colonel are in my opinion rather useless.

Using a Dark Chip I would never do. Sure it's powerful, but like the dark side of the force, it will slowly kill you.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, I find the Dark Wide shot extremely useful. The same with Darklance and Dark Invis, but I guess it's all how you look at it.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 12:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I only use dark chips in chaos unisons plus its better to not risk it cause it could mess up somethings later in the game
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got one question for the dark chip unions in 5, when you look into the guide you notice that the dark chips have effects besides the damage that effect you opponent like lossing HP when you open the custom window, do those still go through when you union and use the chip?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 2:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No.Technically,Rock "harnesses" the power of the Dark Chip.Chaos unisons don't lower your HP at the custom screen etc.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You don't suffer any glitches from Chaos Unisons. The only downside is that, if you screw up, then Rockman DS starts to attack you and you lose the Chaos Unison.
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