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Guernsey Net Agent
Joined: 03 Nov 2005 Posts: 200 Location: Inside my head
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Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 8:04 pm Post subject: Male Shonen Leads |
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Male Shonen Leadsl. They're bold, confident, big eaters, super powerful, moronic and energetic but what is it about them that makes them so attractive and appealing anyway? Although I like characters like Naruto and Mega Man, I think they are way too "perfect" characters and they need to be more flawed like Shinji Ikari with godlike prowess. That's my opinion, now let me hear yours. _________________ Guernsey Adams Pierre
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DrkXFuZion Soul Unison
Joined: 16 Mar 2005 Posts: 895 Location: I'm Lost!!!
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Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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Naruto and Rockman are in no way, "perfect characters".
Naruto has a desperate need for attention due to his circumstances and feels that he is inferior to many of his teammates. This is what drives his desire to grow stronger. Had he been a "perfect" character, he would be more like Sasuke, blessed with beauty and natural talent.
Rockman is portrayed as a child and thus he is naive in a way (best shown in the added ending to Rockman 7 in the US version). If he were "perfect" he would be all-powerful and all-knowing.
BTW...."male" and "shounen" is rather redudant. >.> _________________ ~DrkX (Resident over-sexed camera-whore & Facebook zombie.)
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Hon Kesshou Net Battler
Joined: 12 Mar 2006 Posts: 79 Location: Asinus in Cathedra
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Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 11:07 pm Post subject: |
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Another thing you should notice: not every lead boy fits that description. The one I can think of off the top of my head is Takato from Digimon Tamers.
I personally thought that any character fitting that description was a stock character. >.> |
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Viewtiful Starman Puzzle Game Addict
Age: 37 Joined: 14 Mar 2005 Posts: 708
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Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 1:05 am Post subject: |
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Male's referring to the character's gender, and shounen the genre. (I get why it's supposed to be redundant, just pointing it out in case you actually missed it, I couldn't tell XD)
Anyhow... I can think of a few more different guys off the top of my head.
Allen Walker from D.Gray-man, Neuro from (the aptly named) Neuro, Tsuna from Katekyo Hitman reborn, Myoujin from Mieru Hito, Rouji and Muhyo from Muhyo to Rouji, Raito from Death Note and Murasame from Nazo no Murasame-kun all generally act different from the usual loudmouth shounen hero.
Not that none of them fall in to character cliches though, they just don't fall in to that one. XD
However! Still a lot of the crazy angry ones floating around.
For some reason which is entirely beyond me, it's one of my favorite character cliches in anime too. |
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Mari Elegantly Wasted
Joined: 14 Mar 2005 Posts: 1025 Location: M.I.A.
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Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 10:46 am Post subject: |
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Moving this to Anime Manga and Games. _________________
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Mugen.exe The Original Amish Technogeek!
Joined: 31 Jul 2005 Posts: 911 Location: Behind you, readying a Poison Jab.
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Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 11:47 pm Post subject: |
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I prefer male leads that aren't stock and boring. Sometimes it works, like in the case of Netto (because it's funny), but sometimes it's boring. I suppose that the role is easy to relate to, and familiar, which is why these kinds of characters are so popular. They drive down the need to think of them deeper than what they are. Characters such as Shinji are great because they don't know what they're supposed to be feeling, or how they should act. They have major emotions that conflict occasionally- I like that. Deep, thought-probing characters light Raito from Death Note, or others I don't feel like listing, are just awesome, and inspirational. I guess inspirational failures work too (as in the case of early Naruto, or early Ichitaka (I's) ). _________________
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Wackoman.EXE HOHOHOHO
Age: 32 Joined: 05 Apr 2005 Posts: 1372 Location: SUPER SPIRAL GALAXY
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Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 7:45 am Post subject: |
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I've always loved One Piece because there are technically seven main characters, but Luffy is like a shonen hero times ten. He eats himself silly, isn't dense, but simply stupid (well in most things anyway), and is brave as hell.
I don't really care one way or another how shonen leads act. While it seems like most of them are dense and eat a lot; there's plenty of them that are not: Ichigo from BLEACH, Shinji from Eva, and Kenshin from Rurouni being the most well known. In fact, now that I think about it, there ae more differet shonen lead tan thre are genric. O_o _________________
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Kupo.EXE Darkloid
Joined: 24 May 2005 Posts: 537
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Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 3:16 pm Post subject: |
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I really like ichigo from Bleach, he seems like he actually uses his emotions from time to time.
I think someone like syaoran from tsubasa chronicle is way too perfect rather then naruto or netto. |
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Enzan Chaud [Tuxedo Mask]
Age: 36 Joined: 17 Mar 2005 Posts: 721 Location: Laredo, Texas
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Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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Syaoran from Tsubasa = the type of guy every girls wants but may never ever get. He actually reminds me of Vyse from Skies of Arcadia. I guess some characters in video games can fall into cliches too. Both of these characters want to see the world, discover things, and have a goal... and will do anything to meet them. I actually like those two characters... but yes, they seem way too perfect, but everyone has their flaws. Syaoran worries too much about Sakura and has a phyisical flaw in his eye. He is also very rash about his actions. Vyse is only limited to the choices you make in the game.
I character that fits a typical male lead would be someone like Llyod Irving... far from perfect, arrogant, bored easily, set on something, and dumb (really, he is XD)
Naruto is actually ugly looking.... he reminds me of Mugsy for some reason (typical gangster guy) probably because of how his chin is drawn from the side.
Netto... good in programming... bad in everything else.
Ichigo, I like how he's portrayed. He has character, for sure... and he's been limited due to the fact that he's only human.
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Shakai Shounen yo shinwa ni nare
Age: 34 Joined: 16 Feb 2006 Posts: 1309 Location: Scramble Crossing, Shibuya
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Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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Wackoman.EXE wrote: | I've always loved One Piece because there are technically seven main characters, but Luffy is like a shonen hero times ten. He eats himself silly, isn't dense, but simply stupid (well in most things anyway), and is brave as hell.
I don't really care one way or another how shonen leads act. While it seems like most of them are dense and eat a lot; there's plenty of them that are not: Ichigo from BLEACH, Shinji from Eva, and Kenshin from Rurouni being the most well known. In fact, now that I think about it, there ae more differet shonen lead tan thre are genric. O_o |
...but Shinji's pretty emo since his daddy don't love him, so he doesn't really count. D: *bricks Shinji* _________________ The time is come. Bid farewell to your bloodstained past.
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Mugen.exe The Original Amish Technogeek!
Joined: 31 Jul 2005 Posts: 911 Location: Behind you, readying a Poison Jab.
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Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 12:01 pm Post subject: |
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Shinji as emo... hadn't really thought of that. It's true too! The original primitive emo man-child! Also, Syaoran from Chronicles is pretty perfect, but that's only because he has one thing on his mind (really just how to protect Sakura-hime). Ichigo has several, and I like him for that reason. He wants to protect others to make up for the fact he couldn't protect his mother (and just because he can), and at the same time he wants to hide behind his tough-guy persona (his self-image). Because of that he is a macho fighter whose emotions get the best of him at times.
Luffy is a great character too. I love how he has one goal, and doesn't let anything get in the way of it. His stupidity is extremely helpful at times, and works well for him. Of course, my favorite OnePiece characters are Tony Tony Chopper and Sanji (antlers, hats and cigarettes, I tell ya'!). _________________
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Unknown Neo Cross Fusion!
Age: 40 Joined: 16 Mar 2005 Posts: 2933 Location: Unknown
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Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 6:46 pm Post subject: |
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Shakai wrote: | ...but Shinji's pretty emo since his daddy don't love him, so he doesn't really count. D: *bricks Shinji* |
Yes but his dad deserves it. I think it all went downhill for him when Mrs. Ikari died. One example is the whole thing with Rei.
But anyway, there's a lot of shouen leads types. There's a tought guy like Yusuke and Ichigo of Yuyu Hakasho and Bleach, there's the fun loving one like Naruto and Luffy and there's an idiot savant type, good at one thing but not too good at other things. Ash from pokemon is like this, he's dense, kind of dim but is great at battles. Lan from exe is dense but not too dim. AS I say sometimes; "Some characters are more idiot then savant and some are more savant then idiot."
But that's all mostly my opinion. |
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