Just want to ask something

Fortex · Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 9:49 pm Post subject: Just want to ask something

Before you read the starter post, make sure that you know, understand and fulfill these things :
1. You REALLY understand about what a post says
2. Don't misunderstand about this matter, it's only opinion and opinion can be agreed only by proof. So, post a proof if you can
3. If you are very close to Medical things or even Medical Faculty College student, it'll be wise and you must be know about what this thread says
4. I'm really sorry for anything

Okay, here we go
Do you think that Rockman.EXE has the closest form of human?
I've made a research and comparison.
I've compared Rockmans from the Original and Zero to Ryuusei
I think that EXE has the closes form of humanial-body
I somehow even tricked at the first time i saw him, he LOOKS LIKE human
That's the first matter

And, this is somehow a little...
Is it appropiate to add some anatomial-signs (such as chest bone, a little muscle on hand, or so) to Rockman.Exe when we draw him?
We know that he IS NOT human, right? Even that he was made from human DNA
But, it isn't suitable with his state as no-human creature.
So what do you think

I'll re-list the questions:
1. Do you think that Rockman.Exe is the Rockman that has the closes form of human (has humanial-form)?
2. Is it appropiate to add anatomial-sign to Rockman.Exe when we draw him? Despite of his insuitable with his own state

Well, that's that.
Try to be reasonable, don't forget to post your reasons
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Tachyon360 · Le Croissant Joined: 16 Mar 2005 Posts: 740

Erm, exactly what are you trying to get at? Are you trying to draw and describe Rockman's anatomy a'la Henry Grey's Anatomy of the Human Body? Are you trying to draw him using realistic details and proportions? Are you even trying to draw him at all or are you just vainly trying to sound profound?

No matter what the case my be, if you're to communicate with English speakers in any meaningful way, you seriously need to learn English grammar and some legitimate English vocabulary. This isn't Europanto; you can't just coin vocabulary and forge grammatical rules on the fly.

I'd also recommend getting rid of that unreasonably large gap. It's not like you're providing any sort of unspeakable philosophical revelation that would rape the virgin minds of those unprepared to bear it.
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Fortex · Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 8:30 am Post subject:

Whoops, my bad. Here are my explanations :
1. The word "Do you think..." maybe could be changed to "What is your opinion about ..."
2. The Large Gap was caused by my broken keyboard and i left it unnoticed
3. Really sorry for everything, since i just tried to implement my Medical Knowledge especially Human Anatomy, since it's very hard. Rockman fell as the first one of my experiment items
4. The question number 2 came from my friend actually. He is in same Faculty with me and loves Rockman series too. He ask that question to me. He thinks that when we want to draw someone, we have to know his state, form, etc.
Now, he knows that Rockman.exe isn't human at all, but his body is close to human-like. So, everytime he wants to draw Rockman.exe on a paper, he feel some unsuitability due to his body is like human, but his state is as a program and NOT human at all
5. Sorry for the grammar mistakes
6. That's all
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RT-fact · Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 9:58 am Post subject:

If I would get any information about Rockman.EXE's anatomy, I would really find it quite interesting! As a fan fiction writer, I really pay attention to those rules. We're talking about the comparation between the Network and the real, solid world.

ComicX6 · Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 6:11 pm Post subject:

Well, if you look at the anime, you can see some muscle around the upper torso sometimes, and stuff around the armpit, though it is more noticable in EXE then the subsequent series. Sometimes you can see collerbones.

Whenever I sketch a humanoid navi, whether for fun or for a fanfic, I usually give a collarbone and the beginnings of shoulder muscles. I try to make them look similar to a fit human being. There are some factors though, such as if the navi is designed for combat (in which I try to make them slender and more streamlined), or how much armor covers their bodies. A navi with armor covering its body would show less skin for example. For the groin area, if the subject in question is male, a slightly curved, horizontal line does the trick for a crouch. If it's female, there is, obviously, no such line. With the anime, it seems to be up to the animator, as sometimes the humanoid male navis do have crouches, while other times they don't appear to. For hands, if they're clenched into a fist, I draw knuckles, as does the anime.

So that's that. This is just my drawing style, so don't follow it to the letter, if at all. If I had a scanner availible, I'd show some examples, but I do not.
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Tachyon360 · Le Croissant Joined: 16 Mar 2005 Posts: 740

Rockman is a cartoon - just that and nothing more. The proportions and design are up to you and your art style. While a knowledge of superficial anatomy of the human body would certainly help with drawing any human-like figure realistically, it's by no means necessary for a cartoon character. In the case of Rockman, he was designed to resemble humans, and therefore it would be reasonable to apply the principles of drawing human figures of Rockman. (That's of course, not to say he has any anatomy, since there's no evidence whatsoever in the anime, games, or mangas.)

If you're trying to draw Rockman realistically, learn the principles of perspective and lighting, and then take an art course on drawning human figures. Most such courses require you to draw a skeleton and then a skeleton with musculature and superficial features, including the eyes, ears, nose, and genitals.

ComicX6 · Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 7:30 pm Post subject:

I could've worded that better... I was trying to convey that I don't draw females with highly masculine crouches... -_-;
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Fortex · Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 6:42 am Post subject:

Well, for me, it's somehow good to give anatomial signs to Rockman.

Now, my friend ask this :
"Umm... what's your opinion if we draw Rockman.EXE with muscular condition.Just like usual human muscles, like hand muscles, and some more. WHow about it?"

At that time, i replied :
"I think it'll look a little... unsuitable. Rockman being muscular? Somehow ridiculous, even just try to imagine that."

Well, how about you guys??
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Enzan Chaud · Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 9:50 am Post subject:

If I was to liken Rockman's structure to any type of human it'd have to be... more like a pre-adolescent. He wouldn't seem to have the type of body structure that an 'older' navi would have. Also Navis don't have muscles, really... And I don't think Rockman can have hand muscles if he's wearing those gloves. They seem just like robots, more about structure and bulk than actual muscles. o.o
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**PlaguedOne** · Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 12:48 pm Post subject:

This is simple. The Carbons of Rockman DASH (Megaman Legends) are the most human artificial humans in any Rockman series. Go play the games, and I'm sure you will agree. EXE and navis don't even come close. >_>
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Tachyon360 · Le Croissant Joined: 16 Mar 2005 Posts: 740

Erm, WTF do you mean by "anatomical signs"? Please, could you learn proper English?

If you're refering to musculature, Rockman.EXE certainly has the outward appearance of having it. It doesn't mean he'd be buff or whatnot, but there is clear musculature. Look at some of the screencaps for crying out loud.

As far as how to draw him, it's up to the individual artist, and frankly, it's better if one comes up with his own art style. At that point, it's the artist's call; Rockman could be in the likeness of Arnold Schwarzenegger for all anyone cares.
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**Plantman** · Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 7:12 am Post subject:

I am not exactly sure if this even belongs in this section anymore, it seems now more related to drawing and artwork perception than anything really especifict to reproduction and construction of the human body in Rockman series.

And considering none of the artstyles for any Rockman series are that 'respectful' of real anatomy and body proportions, I'd think this kind of artsy-question could be discussed in the help topics in the fanart section.
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